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Oral history transcript, Don Oberdorfer, interview 1 (I), 6/3/1981, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

of it . impress you? G: How did Fall 0: Oh, he was a very, very interesting man . remember particularly one conversation with about a lot . In those days, in knew his stuff . He really him that I've thought late 1965, early 1966, practice of Secretary

Oral history transcript, Elbridge Durbrow, interview 1 (I), 6/3/1981, by Ted Gittinger (Item)

pretty well and Bill had better command of French than I have. So we both could speak to Sihanouk just alone, no interpreters around, free to let our hair down and talk Dutch uncle business. So in this conversation that came up, I said to Bill, "I'm